Monday, November 20, 2006

Wacky Episcopalians

Ordinary Time

Oh, no she didn't. Amy Welborn: "An interview that will go down in infamy." It's about Heresiarch Kate's interview in the New York Times Magazine. And the papists are pissed...

It reminds me of what our brother Stan said about making a "fetish of the family," but on the other side. The thing is, I've known many Episcopalians who are very excited about Baptists becoming unenthusiastic mainline Christians, but don't have the foggiest notion how or why anyone would convert to Christianity as such.

Oh, and Stan's point in a nutshell was this: when Christians make a fetish of the family - growing it, "protecting" it - as some kind of end in itself, that's how you can tell they don't believe in God anymore, because Christians believe that God expands and renews the Church by conversion. However, what if you're an Episcopalian and you don't care for reproduction or evangelism...? I guess you lose a million members in 20 years...

Update: Oh, wait, there's more...

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4 comments:

Chris T. said...

*sigh* What in the world would possess her to say something so idiotic and insensitive?

Although if you want my opinion, one of the most serious problems contributing to the decline of the mainline is the combination of growing numbers of mainline kids going to college plus self-obsessed, activist campus ministers so radical and "universal spirituality"-inclined that they have no students. And the boards that enable them. Fire some of those men and women and hire young people interested in creating worshiping communities of Episcopalians, Lutherans, UCCers, Disciples, Methodists, and Presbyterians, and you'd see big changes in the mainline. Worshiping. Communities. Both parts necessary. Wonderful social justice work of all times will grow naturally out of those communities provided the campus ministers pay attention to actually fostering community and have a good sense of the Gospel in their heads and hearts. The numerous college-town congregations who find it more important to see to three funerals a week than provide any support to campus groups are culpable, too.

I was going to start that sentence off with "I'll spare you a rant about..." but I got flustered and ranted anyway. Sorry 'bout that. ;-)

Kyle said...

No no, I liked it. :0)

Zabriske said...

Forget all the "mainline" mumbo-jumbo. More converts to traditional Catholicism are what we actually need. OOOH boy, do I see the firestorm coming now...

Chris T. said...

Zabriske -- come Advent, I will be switching to a fiddleback chasuble for Mass. Does that count? ;-)