tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4009348.post111352590899222399..comments2023-11-02T07:47:10.433-04:00Comments on Vindicated: What is the Emerging Church?Kylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14641068117855718120noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4009348.post-1158093713073319662006-09-12T16:41:00.000-04:002006-09-12T16:41:00.000-04:00Totally, In fact, that was my BA dissertation thes...Totally, <BR/><BR/>In fact, that was my BA dissertation thesis. I opened with a chapter on narratives of emergence (focusing on generational, protest, post-modern, and post-Christendom) caricatured rather crudely (but I hope still helpfully), engaged with the debate in the second chapter considering various theological teams / positions (Frost and Hirsch, Murray, McLaren et al, and Ward) certainly not a conclusive list but I read more widely, and I closed with a chapter on the future debate (and the need for that debate). It alarms me how many people are engaging in empirical (inc. me) research as it seems to be by passing theology and it threatens to go stale. <BR/><BR/>Blessings.James Churchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03846894246424730741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4009348.post-1158014420558706182006-09-11T18:40:00.000-04:002006-09-11T18:40:00.000-04:00Hiya, James. I think your point about is well made...Hiya, <B>James</B>. I think your point about is well made, and I agree that the conversation needs to be about specific issues in theology, mission and ecclesiology. Ha, maybe the "Emerging Church conversation" needs to be very minimally about the "emerging church" and entirely about theology, mission, and ecclesiology. <BR/><BR/>Oh yeah, and sacraments. :0)<BR/><BR/>And for the second point, yes! Post-modernity is only a crisis because of the entrenching of the Church in modernity - Christendom. Am I reading you rightly?<BR/><BR/>Blessings.Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14641068117855718120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4009348.post-1157979714763481762006-09-11T09:01:00.000-04:002006-09-11T09:01:00.000-04:00It is not often that I find a post I can totally i...It is not often that I find a post I can totally identify with but I can completely agree with this take on the emerging conversation. I am concerned however with emerging leaders who increasingly talk in terms of a movement and imply a common understanding. Personally, I find the ongoing conversation refreshing and that distinct theological/missiological teams may develop from this conversation helpful.<BR/><BR/>It also alarms me that this understanding is often based upon a postmodern rather than post-christendom approach to narratives of emergence. i.e. a revisioning of Christian faith in response to the rise of postmodernity rather than the re-emergence of the church from Christendom complacency (recognising that this includes a response to modernity and postmodernity as philosophies that would compromise the gospel). I wonder what you think about this?James Churchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03846894246424730741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4009348.post-1128378220378189192005-10-03T18:23:00.000-04:002005-10-03T18:23:00.000-04:00Thanks for the post and the kind words, David. Lo...Thanks for the post and the kind words, David. Lots of people in my position are pretty confused right now, and are looking for ways to live faithfully as disciples. They go down a few wrong paths, maybe trying to be cool or post-modern or something, and it's not going to work. <BR/><BR/>We need to give one another grace to figure that out; it's God's Church, after all. And I say that for my own benefit, as I certainly share your frustration.Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14641068117855718120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4009348.post-1128290578409773502005-10-02T18:02:00.000-04:002005-10-02T18:02:00.000-04:00Forgive my tardiness; I know this post has grown c...Forgive my tardiness; I know this post has grown cold by now, but I have to comment on your post. Your take on the emerging church reinvigorates my hope in the movement. What I've seen and read about has given me little to give it much credence, but I identify with your approach. I only wish I could find an intentional community like yours in my area. Thanks for your thoughts. I'll be back often.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01335230963150372489noreply@blogger.com