tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4009348.post116523721184893508..comments2023-11-02T07:47:10.433-04:00Comments on Vindicated: Monday LinksKylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14641068117855718120noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4009348.post-1165929035225073372006-12-12T08:10:00.000-05:002006-12-12T08:10:00.000-05:00If it makes anyone feel any better, I deny both pa...If it makes anyone feel any better, I deny both papal infallibility and <I>sola scriptura</I>, at least as it is defined by contemporary Christians who fancy themselves as heirs to the Reformers. I'm beginning to suspect that the Reformers would not recognize or respect what modern-day Prots mean by that phrase.<BR/><BR/>And I still think that one of the primary sins of Protestantism is that it makes every man his own pope. When communities really do read Scripture <I>together</I> as much in line with the broader Christian tradition as they can manage, they're doing a good thing. Otherwise...Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14641068117855718120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4009348.post-1165880042723541552006-12-11T18:34:00.000-05:002006-12-11T18:34:00.000-05:00Zabriske - we do know what is meant by Papal infal...Zabriske - we do know what is meant by Papal infallibility. We also know that it is wrong!<BR/><BR/>Kyle - You 'core of protestantism' has mcuh truth but is not the whole story. In fact, one of the problems that seems to happen among Protestants is thatindividual pastors start to make their own 'infallible' pronouncements. A more common protestant view is Berean - a Scriptural check on what is being taught to make sure it is true and adds up. Collective accountability. In the case of the Papacy, we often find that its definitive pronouncements are simply wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4009348.post-1165362633711194752006-12-05T18:50:00.000-05:002006-12-05T18:50:00.000-05:00What struck me on the ABC's answer to why he is an...What struck me on the ABC's answer to why he is an Anglican it is that it is the Catholic church "in this place." Very English. Ultimately very Erastian.<BR/><BR/>And as an American member of [dfms]T[p]ECusa it offers me no reason to be Anglican outside the Realm.<BR/><BR/>Are we the Catholic Church in this country? I think not.<BR/><BR/>Boy, just didn't think I would find the ABC pushing me closer to the banks of the Tiber.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4009348.post-1165333611332494602006-12-05T10:46:00.000-05:002006-12-05T10:46:00.000-05:00I should speak for the ABC here and note that he s...I should speak for the ABC here and note that he surely does know what infallibility means, as do I: not that the Pope is somehow without sin (we remember that B16 was JP2's confessor, and that the present Pope certainly has one of his own!), but that it's the Pope's prerogative to speak for the Magisterium of the Church and to pronounce authoritatively (and finally!) on matters of doctrine. I note for my readers that it also <I>doesn't</I> mean that anything the Pope says and believes is somehow offered <I>ex cathedra</I>. You might have noticed the recent media uproar, that somehow since B16 said his newly published book on the historical Jesus isn't to be considered "infallible," he's stepping back from the doctrine of papal infallibility. Such comments betray a complete ignorance of what papal infallibility means.<BR/><BR/>Why is it controversial? <BR/><BR/>You must remember that at the core of Protestantism is the insistence that I may sit in my room all by myself and pronounce upon what the Bible "really means," and that no one can tell me what it "really means." You know I have serious problems with that.<BR/><BR/>And the Anglican position, aside from the papal office as it presently exists? <BR/><BR/>"Councils doth err." We don't believe that the Holy Spirit necessarily protects all councils from any and all error.Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14641068117855718120noreply@blogger.com