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To add: I'm one of those people not ready to lead into the Tiber, so this strikes me in a kinda tough place. I didn't mean to ignore what you said in your post... that was just my honest reaction of thought.
Yeah - wow, big move. I'm also curious about the implications for your community (as well as for Alan personally, though I can read about that on his blog).
I guess I'll have to drag out the PowerPoint again, huh Kyle? ha!
I though, without crazy details, that I had actually said what it means for vine & branches in my recent blog post, but oh well. I didn't even think it was hesitating language.
Very briefly, we have effectively ceased to be "a church" properly speaking. We will no longer celebrate the Eucharist in my living room. I will not officially be "the pastor" any more.
My family and I will begin the process of working our way into being a part of a local Catholic parish here in Lexington. For us all to be technically "Catholic" more than that needs to happen. It's not like "moving your letter" to a new church and there you go. We're working on that. No pressure has been put on anyone to swim the river with us (they can attest to that I think).
Now, our community will remain a community of people who are a part of the Church - the whole Church at large. We may receive the Sacraments in different places but we will continue to be a self-identified community of believers who pray with one another and encourage one another along the faith journey. Our relationships are not being cut off. They will remain intact and hopefully grow. Can I help be spiritual director to people and not be "their pastor?" Sure, and I will, as I can. We will now only meet once a month for potluck and prayer, as I said.
The monastery plans are basically the same. Do a google search on John Michael Talbot or Little Portion Hermitage and you'll get some idea of something akin to what we're going to do - not a carbon copy. It's a big change, but not a bad change. Some things will be missed. We'll learn to adapt. No worries, and if I'm saying that, there really are no worries. Hope that makes sense. Peace.
Oh yeah, I guess you did, huh. Haha, I didn't so much read it as link it. :-D
But really, what I was talking about clarifying was what it will look like, how I'll think about it, blah blah blah. Remember that lots of people out there don't have Christian friends who aren't part of their church and denomination.
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What do you think this means for your community? Especially those folks not ready to make the same leap into the Tiber?
To add: I'm one of those people not ready to lead into the Tiber, so this strikes me in a kinda tough place. I didn't mean to ignore what you said in your post... that was just my honest reaction of thought.
Yeah - wow, big move. I'm also curious about the implications for your community (as well as for Alan personally, though I can read about that on his blog).
No worries, Matt. It just made me realize that what I wrote was possibly unclear.
I guess I'll have to drag out the PowerPoint again, huh Kyle? ha!
I though, without crazy details, that I had actually said what it means for vine & branches in my recent blog post, but oh well. I didn't even think it was hesitating language.
Very briefly, we have effectively ceased to be "a church" properly speaking. We will no longer celebrate the Eucharist in my living room. I will not officially be "the pastor" any more.
My family and I will begin the process of working our way into being a part of a local Catholic parish here in Lexington. For us all to be technically "Catholic" more than that needs to happen. It's not like "moving your letter" to a new church and there you go. We're working on that. No pressure has been put on anyone to swim the river with us (they can attest to that I think).
Now, our community will remain a community of people who are a part of the Church - the whole Church at large. We may receive the Sacraments in different places but we will continue to be a self-identified community of believers who pray with one another and encourage one another along the faith journey. Our relationships are not being cut off. They will remain intact and hopefully grow. Can I help be spiritual director to people and not be "their pastor?" Sure, and I will, as I can. We will now only meet once a month for potluck and prayer, as I said.
The monastery plans are basically the same. Do a google search on John Michael Talbot or Little Portion Hermitage and you'll get some idea of something akin to what we're going to do - not a carbon copy. It's a big change, but not a bad change. Some things will be missed. We'll learn to adapt. No worries, and if I'm saying that, there really are no worries. Hope that makes sense. Peace.
Oh yeah, I guess you did, huh. Haha, I didn't so much read it as link it. :-D
But really, what I was talking about clarifying was what it will look like, how I'll think about it, blah blah blah. Remember that lots of people out there don't have Christian friends who aren't part of their church and denomination.
I'd certainly forgotten that bit.
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Pax.
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